tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post3361479912565789128..comments2023-10-29T09:42:53.535-04:00Comments on Detroit Tigers Thoughts: Projected Elias RankingsEddie Bajekhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03494565377437295198noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-28953000090551443592008-10-17T15:57:00.000-04:002008-10-17T15:57:00.000-04:00Jim Thome is not a free agent. 2009 was an option ...Jim Thome is not a free agent. 2009 was an option year, but it became guaranteed when he reached a certain amount of ABs during the 2007 and 2008 seasons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-31790371234286987912008-10-07T00:32:00.000-04:002008-10-07T00:32:00.000-04:00I'll be posting them in individual posts over the ...I'll be posting them in individual posts over the next couple of weeks. I'm double checking everybody's DL status, which takes way too long right now. The Final National League Starting Pitchers are ready, and the relievers should be up sometime tomorrow. I've been pretty busy the past week and haven't had the time to dive through all of the injury transactions of every player.Eddie Bajekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03494565377437295198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-51389690445396861762008-10-03T15:57:00.000-04:002008-10-03T15:57:00.000-04:00Do you have a final update yet? Have you complete...Do you have a final update yet? Have you completely succeeded in reverse engineering the rankings? This is freaking awesome, btw.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-73813491620385433292008-09-30T13:43:00.000-04:002008-09-30T13:43:00.000-04:00Heh - guess that Lohse classification is a moot po...Heh - guess that Lohse classification is a moot point now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-42804776672338307172008-09-25T22:37:00.000-04:002008-09-25T22:37:00.000-04:00Eddie-After his last two wins (and barring a major...Eddie-<BR/><BR/>After his last two wins (and barring a major catastrophe in his last start), any chance Kyle Lohse will sneak into type A classification?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-65176177318968609572008-09-25T12:14:00.000-04:002008-09-25T12:14:00.000-04:00Can you update the Elias rankings after the last g...Can you update the Elias rankings after the last game of the year - Sunday???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-44563978917700495162008-09-21T16:39:00.000-04:002008-09-21T16:39:00.000-04:00Hey your blog got a mention in the Detroit Free Pr...Hey your blog got a mention in the Detroit Free Press, congratulations. You do great work and I enjoy reading your blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-23955352715260947052008-09-14T19:02:00.000-04:002008-09-14T19:02:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07805281837470504210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-28415008046491664612008-09-14T10:38:00.000-04:002008-09-14T10:38:00.000-04:00Position is based on where you have played the mos...Position is based on where you have played the most games in the past two season. Ryan Dempster has relieved more than he started in that time frame.Eddie Bajekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03494565377437295198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-31685598637888551162008-09-12T16:02:00.000-04:002008-09-12T16:02:00.000-04:00why are you guys such idiots...Eddie is so patient...why are you guys such idiots...Eddie is so patient in how he explains the system to you...Telemachushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02604925722607159436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-34481799042571244322008-09-12T08:51:00.000-04:002008-09-12T08:51:00.000-04:00Ryan Dempster is listed as a reliever even though ...Ryan Dempster is listed as a reliever even though he's started all season.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-89099327155374961562008-09-11T04:24:00.000-04:002008-09-11T04:24:00.000-04:00No outrage, because as you (I believe) pointed out...No outrage, because as you (I believe) pointed out you can cut a vets salary in arbitration as much as you like so the floor wouldn't be locked at 8M.<BR/><BR/>Also, despite his performance, I think there is a good chance he could get signed before the arbitration deadline because the team signing him wouldn't have to worry about losing any picks...Then the Brewers would get the pick automatically...<BR/><BR/>Regardless, it seems likely that CC and Sheets will sign with teams in the top half of the standings (Dodgers, Yankees, Mets) with maybe your Tigers jumping in from the bottom...which would leave the team with 5 of the top 40 or so picks...CC will bring back the first pick of the compensation round so 4 of the first 33 (assuming Fields signs)...Any other comp picks would be gravy!<BR/><BR/>Granted I'd much rather keep one of the two...Telemachushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02604925722607159436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-43884363695376293222008-09-10T18:19:00.000-04:002008-09-10T18:19:00.000-04:00Telemachus, even if Gagne retained type B status, ...Telemachus, even if Gagne retained type B status, the Brewers would have to risk offering him arbitration. Granted, his agent is Boras and it's unlikely. But what if he DID accept? Imagine the outrage!djwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10621477747708943238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-49722443295887596532008-09-10T18:17:00.000-04:002008-09-10T18:17:00.000-04:00Bear in mind if the Brewers are to get a draft pic...Bear in mind if the Brewers are to get a draft pick for Gagne, they'd have to offer him arbitration and risk being stuck with him for another year.Eddie Bajekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03494565377437295198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-42636058599174382582008-09-10T17:04:00.000-04:002008-09-10T17:04:00.000-04:00Eddie,Any chance that Gagne will be able to hang o...Eddie,<BR/><BR/>Any chance that Gagne will be able to hang on to his "B" status?<BR/><BR/>That would be a boon for the Brewers, and at least leave the possibility for getting a return on the investment the team made in him.<BR/><BR/>I think the team will try hard to resign Shouse and will most likely pick up Cameron's option. But it's safe to assume they will lose CC and Sheets. Add Gagne and possibly Shouse and the Brewers are looking at 5 or 6 extra picks!Telemachushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02604925722607159436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-48233865384110379102008-09-10T14:48:00.000-04:002008-09-10T14:48:00.000-04:00It's the last two years. Delgado's recent hot str...It's the last two years. Delgado's recent hot streak may move him up a bit when I update them. The link in the post will direct you to how the rankings are arrived at. They do not take into consideration anything you mentioned, just the injury-adjusted PA, BA, OBP, HR, and RBI for the players accumulated in the 2007-2008 seasons.<BR/><BR/>Bear in mind that outfielders get their scores when compared to other outfielders and are only grouped with the firstbasemen once they get their Elias score.Eddie Bajekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03494565377437295198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-84477597827370444982008-09-10T13:42:00.000-04:002008-09-10T13:42:00.000-04:00Eddie:how is Carlos Delgado only barely a Type B? ...Eddie:<BR/>how is Carlos Delgado only barely a Type B? I thought the Elias Rankings are based on the last 3 years (2006 to 2008), he had 38, 114 in 2006, 2007 was a down year and the first two months were bad but in total this year his numbers are 35 103. <BR/><BR/>how is Matt Kemp a type A???...Jeremy Hermida, Ryan Ludwick and Brian Giles as well for OF/1B in NL? isn't Ludwick a one year wonder so far? Giles batting average was 263 in 2006 and has not hit for much power since he has played in Petco Park. <BR/><BR/>Does the Elias take on potential for a player like Matt Kemp? and if a player makes an All-Star Team like Ryan Ludwick? or past performance beyond the 3 years for Giles?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-72345829724092071482008-09-08T18:33:00.000-04:002008-09-08T18:33:00.000-04:00No, I just haven't updated the NL Infielders since...No, I just haven't updated the NL Infielders since the release. They will not get compensation and he will be removed when I update the infielder rankings.Eddie Bajekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03494565377437295198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-22932703996744568332008-09-08T16:51:00.000-04:002008-09-08T16:51:00.000-04:00If Tadahito Iguchi is a type "B" do the padres get...If Tadahito Iguchi is a type "B" do the padres get any compensation next year, since they released him last week?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-92080768370701981162008-09-08T01:52:00.000-04:002008-09-08T01:52:00.000-04:00Eddie,I did not mean prorating by game by game but...Eddie,<BR/><BR/>I did not mean prorating by game by game but per season. But I guess that what you meant. I'm scrtching my head trying to find out how you know this information.<BR/><BR/>Interesting work. I'd like to see your estimates at the end of the season.<BR/><BR/>It's excellent work if you are right. Actually it's excellent work if you are not too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-67101037566075153342008-09-08T01:13:00.000-04:002008-09-08T01:13:00.000-04:00There are none right now.Bradley will qualify as a...There are none right now.<BR/><BR/>Bradley will qualify as a DH because he played more games at DH/PH the past two years than at OF. There is no prorating for defensive time and there is no gray area.<BR/><BR/>As an outfielder, Bradley would qualify as a type A, barely.Eddie Bajekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03494565377437295198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-34172768478402906402008-09-08T00:55:00.000-04:002008-09-08T00:55:00.000-04:00Eddie,I appreciate your hard work, but I hope you ...Eddie,<BR/><BR/>I appreciate your hard work, but I hope you are wrong with respect to Bradley's classification. I hope there is some proration of Bradley's 2007 OF ranking into his overall ranking this offseason. That is I hope he is not solely evaluated as a DH.<BR/><BR/>I looked at your link and you state that players used mainly as PH/PR are put into the DH category. Do you have an estimation to how many there are that fit this description?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-89351363852364823892008-09-08T00:13:00.000-04:002008-09-08T00:13:00.000-04:00Anon, check the original link above entitled (Almo...Anon, check the original link above entitled (Almost) how the rankings work.<BR/><BR/>Basically, the players obtain their scores against the other players at their own position and then they are grouped with players of another position.<BR/><BR/>A few more points: Bradley is likely to move up because some of the other DH's had maxed out their DL time as of the last update. When Bradley moves up, he will move up a long ways because of the small amount of players in his group. As soon as he moves up one spot in one category, he gains two points. If he passes 6 guys in homeruns, that's 12 points.<BR/><BR/>Bradley is also hurt by being in the American League, where his competition is a lot better, except at shortstop.<BR/><BR/>In short, you are oversimplifying the rankings system. I have linked my explanation for how it works above. Please if you have any specific questions or clarification, please let me know.Eddie Bajekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03494565377437295198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-4281131229470389812008-09-07T23:26:00.000-04:002008-09-07T23:26:00.000-04:00I don't think that is how it works, didn't you say...I don't think that is how it works, didn't you say that all category 2 players are grouped together (1B, OF, DH)? If it is taken the way that you say then it is a terribly flawed system.<BR/><BR/>I still don't think the totals have as equal weight as the other statistics.<BR/><BR/>Bradley's 52 RBIs and 14 HRs doesn't seem too high even as an OF to earn him a Type A free-agent last year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21899651.post-80402083797202031642008-09-07T22:36:00.000-04:002008-09-07T22:36:00.000-04:00Bradley was competing against OF last year and DH ...Bradley was competing against OF last year and DH this year. There are a ton of bench players who help put him in the top 20 percent of outfielders. This year, he is compared to just 9 other designated hitters, all of which have been able to rack up the counting stats to bump him down.<BR/><BR/>Bradley leads all DH's in BA and OBP, but is really lacking in the counting stats. He is getting a boost for missing time due to injury last year, but he spent a lot of time on the bench. That time is not accounted for, and he is killed by that.Eddie Bajekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03494565377437295198noreply@blogger.com